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magicbastarder
4th February 2004, 06:20 PM
The European Space Agency has embarked on an ambitious space plan that includes sending astronauts to Mars in 2033.

The ultimate goal of sending people to Mars is similar to the initiative outlined by US President George W Bush in January, but ESA's programme, called Aurora, is far more detailed.

Aurora was first approved in principle in 2001, but details of the plan were presented to members of the British space industry on Tuesday in London. ESA's strategy is to take a step-by-step approach to developing the technologies required for a manned Mars mission.

The steps include creating a new vehicle that will re-enter Earth's atmosphere at high speeds by 2007, sending an orbiter and rover to Mars in 2009, and launching a two-stage mission to return samples from Mars in 2011 and 2014.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994642

Sparks
5th February 2004, 12:10 PM
Er, that really ought to be "UK joins ESA" rather than "ESA decides to go to moon", especially since Mars Express is a part of Aurora, so it's been off the drawing board for a while now...

CookieMonster
5th February 2004, 12:19 PM
Is this just keeping up the the Jones'?

Will it really ever happen? (in the near future that is)

Sparks
5th February 2004, 12:24 PM
It's not keeping up with the Joneses. And yes, it's doable. The final decision for a manned mission though, doesn't take place until 2014.

colinsky
9th February 2004, 12:57 AM
seriously, though, would you want to hitch a ride on the next beagle?

shimjimminy
9th February 2004, 01:55 AM
poor beagle. have they located the landing/crash site yet? i've read the orbiting imaging equipment has a resolution up to 1m. would that show up the balloons and scuff marks on the surface?

damnnamething2001
9th February 2004, 02:09 AM
For such an expensive venture..it might make more sense for Europe and the U.S. to work together for the common goal. It certainly would lessen the financial burden on the taxpayers on both sides of the Atlantic.

The Bakerman
9th February 2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by CookieMonster
Is this just keeping up the the Jones'?

Will it really ever happen? (in the near future that is) Well at least we might be able to challenge our war-mongering "chums" that, even though they very much seem to believe it, they don't own the whole universe and their empire is big enough as it is thank you very much.

Sparks
9th February 2004, 12:07 PM
Well, it sounds good DNT, but NASA doesn't have a great record of working with other agencies :(
(Try reading Dragonfly for the best-known example, the US missions to Mir).