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deeb
15th June 2000, 10:59 AM
I have fifty quids worth of Waterstones tokens in my grubby little hands and I want to spend it at lunch time. Any recommendations?

deeb
15th June 2000, 12:00 PM
Right, I'm off. I think it'll be Geisha and Disgrace anyway. I may only use about £20, delayed gratification etc etc..

Thanks guys!!

Jonny
15th June 2000, 12:04 PM
I want to go to Borders and lose myself for an hour too! http://www.p45.net/rant/frown.gif
But I've already spent about hundred quid in the last two weeks on books alone. It's an addiction though. Have to exercise some restraint. Keep telling myself that...

Elimare
15th June 2000, 12:17 PM
know exactly what ye mean Jonny. a good cure for this addiction is poverty...

Let us know how you get on with 'memoirs' I thought it was a really beautifully written book...

Jonny
15th June 2000, 12:20 PM
Eli, I've done a long stint of poverty, and now I'm over-compensating!
I'm really enjoying Memoirs (Thankyou!), and it is wonderfully written. One thing that perhaps you can clear up. Is this fiction or non-fiction. Is it a real memoir? I thought at first it was, but then there's a translator's note at the beginning. Is that a preface written by the author as if it were all a factual account, or to give it that guise? http://www.p45.net/rant/confused.gif

Elimare
15th June 2000, 12:33 PM
ahhh... that's the best bit... took me a while to figure out as welll... do you really wanna know?? http://www.p45.net/rant/smile.gif

Jonny
15th June 2000, 12:37 PM
Well, I don't know.
I'm guessing... no. Don't say anything. Let me read on and we'll discuss it again when I've finished. http://www.p45.net/rant/biggrin.gif

Elimare
15th June 2000, 12:52 PM
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Nemesis
15th June 2000, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Elimare:
know exactly what ye mean Jonny. a good cure for this addiction is poverty...

or the library

deeb
15th June 2000, 01:08 PM
Well, I'm back with Memoirs and Disgrace in my hands. I was very restrained and only bought one other Our Fathers by Andrew O'Hagan about a guy returning to Scotland and discovering the past of his fathers. Booker shortlisted last year and I read some good review of it, so I'll let you know.
Doncha just love the smell of a new book http://www.p45.net/rant/biggrin.gif

grassshoppah
15th June 2000, 11:03 PM
Disgrace by Coetzee

BABY_D
15th June 2000, 11:06 PM
Whats a Waterstones token????

krayZpaving
15th June 2000, 11:09 PM
Hannibal (follow up to Silence of The Lambs)

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:09 PM
Oh Deeb, too many!
The usual suspects that I bang on about.
Wild Swans by Jung Chang
Anything at all by Jeff Noon
Yeah, just finished Disgrace, excellent. Started Memoirs of a Geisha on, I think, Eli's recommendation. Also very good. Just finished Sleepers by Lorenzo Carcaterra too. Very disturbing and moving. Any short story selection by Tobias Wolff. All of Louis de Bernieres too. That's yer 50 quid spent, no problems. http://www.p45.net/rant/biggrin.gif

julia
15th June 2000, 11:09 PM
Waterstone's is a book store.

What kind of stuff do you like to read?

deeb
15th June 2000, 11:09 PM
Ooh, good one Grasss. Ist on the list
I always find when I walk into a bookstore/record shop, I immediately forget all the books and cds I wanted to buy.

BabyD - waterstones is a bookshop

deeb
15th June 2000, 11:14 PM
Julia, anything really except overt sci-fi or those John Grisham type ones.

Jonny: read Wild Swans - excellent. Dipped into a Jeff Noon book called Alice (?) and hated it. Memoirs of a Geisha shall go on the list and maybe de Bernieres, (loved Captain Corelli)

Sparky
15th June 2000, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by krayZpaving:
Hannibal (follow up to Silence of The Lambs)

Possibly the greatest load of shite I've ever read. How they plan on making a film about it is beyond me altogether.

TheFunkeyGibbon
15th June 2000, 11:16 PM
Anything at all by:

Fredrick Forsyth (ICON is very good)
Stephen King (Start with Christine)
Ben Elton (Well the first three books anyway!)
Terry Pratchett (Start with The Colour of Magic)

Also:
Robert Harris - Fatherland or Enigma

That enough for ya? http://www.p45.net/rant/smile.gif

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:17 PM
Yeah Deeb, Automated Alice is the only Noon I've not read. Jeff Noon, after discussions here, seems like marmite in the love/hate sense. Fortunately I love marmite.
Anyone else here read Golden's Memoirs of Geisha?

Thing
15th June 2000, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Jonny:
Yeah Deeb, Automated Alice is the only Noon I've not read. Jeff Noon, after discussions here, seems like marmite in the love/hate sense. Fortunately I love marmite.
Anyone else here read Golden's Memoirs of Geisha?

Yes Jonny...enjoyed it...

grassshoppah
15th June 2000, 11:20 PM
Bizarre Jonny.... Memoirs of a Geisha and Captain Corelli's Mandolin are in my next few to read...

krayZpaving
15th June 2000, 11:22 PM
Sophie's World by Josteein Gaarder (i think that the spelling of his name is right)

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:22 PM
Grassshoppah!
I'm stunned that a lady who seems to have almost every title of decent contemporary fiction hasn't yet read Captain Corelli. Oh BOY are you in for a treat. From what you've said on the literary threads, I think you'll love living with that book.

deeb
15th June 2000, 11:22 PM
Grasss, read Captain Corelli pronto. It really is an amazing book. And the film hype will be starting soon (it already has a bit), so read it before you have any preconceptions. Cannot praise it high enough

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by krayZpaving:
Sophie's World by Josteein Gaarder (i think that the spelling of his name is right)
Yes Kray! And The Solitaire Mystery too. Beautifully weird.

deeb
15th June 2000, 11:27 PM
Yup, Sophie's Choice is a good read.
RE Captain Corelli, I don't think it hit Ireland in the same way it did the UK for some bizarre reason.

I got it as a present from a friend in London about 2 1/2 yrs ago who said it was in everyone's hands on the tube, but it didn't seem to impact at home.

grassshoppah
15th June 2000, 11:28 PM
Good to hear Deeb and Jonny....currently reading a very cool book of short stories...actually will do a thread on that later....but nice thing about s.s.'s is you can pick them up and put them down anytime....

...so Captain Corelli's it is...based on your glowing reports I will start it this weekend...and especially before I read anything about the film...hate that.....

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:30 PM
Unless the film is a Citizen Kane (which I never saw, but you get the idea) for the 21st Century, I think you can be assured that they'll fuck it up. It'll take SO much work to do the story any sort of justice. Get reading Grass, quick!!

deeb
15th June 2000, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by grassshoppah:
..and especially before I read anything about the film...hate that.....

It's the worst! I loved the English Patient (film) and read the book afterwards and it was so frustrating because the characters have already been defined for you, no matter how much I tried to forget the film and they change the "facts". I'm sure I'd have liked the book if I'd read it BEFORE the film.

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:39 PM
Yeah, I read A Simple Plan a few weeks ago, and then a friend told me that a film of it had been made. Not only was the second main protagonist a completely different character, but the second half of the book had been largely left out, and the ending where all the threads came together, was totally changed. Didn't bear any resemblance to the book after the first twenty minutes. Fucked me right off that did.

Elimare
15th June 2000, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by deeb:

Dipped into a Jeff Noon book called Alice (?) and hated it


Deeb, I think you have to read a couple of Noon's books to get a feel for his 'universe'... Automated Alice was probably the *wrong* one to start with. Try Nymphomation or Vurt and you'll begin to see the pattern...

deeb
15th June 2000, 11:45 PM
Mind you, I went to see The Beach a while ago. I liked the book and I knew the film was meant to be shite, but I didn't realise just how much of a mess of it they could make. It bore no resemblence to the essence of the book, never mind the narrative. All that and they f*cked up the paradise.

Nemesis
15th June 2000, 11:45 PM
Avoid Hannibal - finished it last night, hated the ending and am not surprised they plan to change it for the film....

Wild Swans is an excellent read - I'd recommend it (keep meaning to reread it).

Elimare
15th June 2000, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Jonny:
Originally posted by krayZpaving:
[b]Sophie's World by Josteein Gaarder (i think that the spelling of his name is right)
Yes Kray! And The Solitaire Mystery too. Beautifully weird.

Unusual story-telling style alright... http://www.p45.net/rant/smile.gif



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deeb
15th June 2000, 11:47 PM
I don't think Hannibal is really my cup of tea. I mean, I haven't even seen Silence of the Lambs. Who wrote it again?

Jonny
15th June 2000, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by deeb:
I don't think Hannibal is really my cup of tea. I mean, I haven't even seen Silence of the Lambs. Who wrote it again?
Thomas Harris

Sparky
15th June 2000, 11:53 PM
Thomas Harris wrote all the Lecter books. The only one worth reading is "Red Dragon". That's a very good book.

julia
16th June 2000, 12:25 AM
Memoirs of a Geisha is a wonderful book! I loved it.
Has anyone read The Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood? Excellent book. Kind of a chick book, but a great read.

I love the smell of new books, old books, library books...any book is a good book!

Palomino
16th June 2000, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by grassshoppah:
Memoirs of a Geisha and Captain Corelli's Mandolin are in my next few to read...

Interesting coincidence. I bought Captain Corelli's Mandolin last weekend, as part of a £120 splurge in Hodges Figgis...

Gala
23rd June 2000, 01:05 PM
Anything by E Annie Proulx. Start with The Shipping News, it's her lightest. Postcards was pretty grim but great, and At Close Range is a collection of grim short stories. Lovely cowboy stories, but grim all the same. Great stuff.

Sparky
23rd June 2000, 01:09 PM
I've just started a book called "Brazzaville Beach" by William Boyd. Has anyone else read this?

Jonny
23rd June 2000, 01:11 PM
Haven't read it Sparks, but is he the same Boyd who wrote "Are you Experienced?" ?

Sparky
23rd June 2000, 01:15 PM
I don't know Jonny. He wrote a book called A good man in Africa which you've probably heard of. He was shortlisted for the Booker prize for An ice cream war also.

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Nemesis
23rd June 2000, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Sparky:
I've just started a book called "Brazzaville Beach" by William Boyd. Has anyone else read this?

I read this a while back - took me a while to get into it but I enjoyed it. Another of his is Armadillo which was good also.

Sparky
23rd June 2000, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis:
I read this a while back - took me a while to get into it


I've heard it's good alright, but it's certainly a slow starter. As long as it gets better...

deeb
23rd June 2000, 01:48 PM
Well, I'd just like to echo what's been said about Memoirs of a Geisha...it's absoulutely fascinating, couldn't put it down until I'd finished. And it's definitely one of those "don't stop now, I want to know EVERYTHING books"
Am presently half way through Our Fathers by Andrew o Hagan and it's very good so far - very sad and beautifully written

TheFunkeyGibbon
23rd June 2000, 02:10 PM
I know they are old and most of you had to read them at school but some absolute classics are:

The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham
Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham
1984 by George Orwell
Lord of the Flies by William Golding

Great stuff. http://www.p45.net/rant/biggrin.gif

Elimare
23rd June 2000, 03:17 PM
hiya FG, I always liked 'The Chrysalids' by wyndham.

Jolie
23rd June 2000, 06:55 PM
If you like books ala Patricia Cornwell the new Kathy Reichs books are good "Deja Dead" and "Death du jour".